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There seems to be a growing limit around that as well. >> you can tell we're later in the year. it's still dark behind her there at the white house. >> it's a metaphor. >> it's been dark for weeks. brew let's pick up that point about the medical device tax. it seems like an almost trivial thing. in terms, in the context of the president's position, the white house position as christian is saying is, look, these are fundamental issues. we should not ever be negotiating over a debt default. we want to kind of reclaim this precedent. mj, if they end up giving ground and giving in to republicans o...

Ago. let's all remember, we haven't talked about spending in the continuing resolution bill you talked about before on your show the democrats have lost on this, the spending levels in this deal, going into this, the republicans levels, weeks ago, you went to democratic aids, some senators and said, you guys are really going to let the sequester be the new baseline? they said, we're fine. because these guys want to fight about obama care. we're going to watch it. we don't want to have that argument. we will let them tear it apart. >> let's say they're unified, they won't talk about the unified...