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Somewhere in south africa for a long time. and this should not be surprising if anybody is really paying attention. because -- to other significant variants. the one that cost many of the early vaccine trials to go awry, and then the c top two has just appeared this summer. and they also appear to have been in circulation for a while on a very low level. one, two, three people before surfacing and becoming obvious. why would that be so? can you guess what's the reason might be. why south africa might be a brewing pot? >> why? >> hiv. it's the largest population of hiv positive people in the wo...

This summer. they also appear to have been in circulation for a while on a very low level, one, two, three people before surfacing and becoming obvious. why would that be so? can you guess what the reason might be, why south africa would be a brewing pot? >> why? >> hiv. it's the largest population of hiv-positive people in the world. >> huh. >> and in this epidemic, we've seen much of the services related to hiv fall apart because public health systems are so stressed. now, south africa has got a strong system compared to its neighbor nations and certainly stronger than, say, sutu or zambia, ...