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Democrats on capitol hill vowing to fight president trump's declaration of a national emergency to get the money for his wall. the president undercutting his own argument about an emergency by saying, quote, i didn't need to do this. back with me now, laura coates, max boot. we're joined now by brian care am, who was at the president's event today. was that -- i mean, when he said that, were you all like, what did he just say? that he didn't need to do it? that means it's not an emergency. brian, let's talk about this. welcome to the conversation. i just want to play this moment from today's p...

President obama for using his executive authority. but president obama never did anything remotely like this where trump is trying to build a wall which has not been funded, has not been appropriated by congress. this is flouting the will of the legislative branch which under article one has the sole authority to appropriate funds, and he's admitting there's no actual emergency. it's possible he might be able to get away with this with the -- but this is wrong. we know that this is not an actual emergency, and congress has to step up and show that they actually believe in the constitution, whi...

>> i can say that it is very biblical to enforce the law. that is actually repeated a number of times throughout the bible. >> the white house press secretary was challenged on her lie that the law requires the separation of mothers from their children at the border. reporters pointed out that that was a policy choice made by attorney general jeff sessions in april of this year, the white house press secretary continued to lie about the policy choice made by president trump and the attorney general and white house reporter brian care um got mad as hell and just couldn't take it any more? >> do...

Reporter brian care um got mad as hell and just couldn't take it any more? >> don't you this ji empathy? you're a parent, don't you have any empa think for what these people are going through? >> settle down. i'm not going to have you yell out of turn. >> these people have nothing -- >> i know you want to get more tv time. >> it's not about that. it's about you answering a question. answer the question. it's a serious question. these people have nothing, they come to the border with nothing and you throw children in cages. you're a parent of young children, don't you have any empathy for what ...

Cnn political analyst brian care rem. a.b., you can get into the weeds about what it means to slide over from one cabinet member to another, acting versus permanent. the idea that it would be easy and they can avoid a revetting of pruitt if he were to take out sessions may not be simple in the minds of the senators who would make the decision. here is senator angus king who would sit on the committee that would do the vetting. >> is it your understanding that the white house can slide somebody from one cabinet position into another without going through any recertification by the senate? >> no...