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Liberals would like. what he said about incarceration, the disproportionately affecting people of color, i thought that was impressive. the trouble is, there's no constituency for that in the republican party whatsoever. so we had last week -- ted cruz or two weeks ago, now rand paul. i don't think either of these candidates is going to last very much past south carolina. >> brian, can't rand paul stay financed for a pretty long run like his father used to? >> yeah, if he doesn't alienate his dad's constituency. they're great small givers. what he's also looking at, mr. dean made a good point,...

A constitutional amendment to balance the budget, what he calls economic freedom zones in places like detroit which he says would cut jobs by cutting corporate taxes and term limits on himself. he proposed term limits on members of the house and senate, and here is one vision for the country that you won't be hearing from any other republican presidential candidate. >> i see an america where criminal justice is applied equally, and any law that disproportionally incarcerates people of color is repealed. >> joining me now my panel. brian dauerty, you've written a book about rand paul's father, ...

>> see, i think that this is a politician trying to have it both ways. i disagree. i think i'm more with lawrence than i am with steve, because what -- i've heard him say both things in that same speech. we want negotiation, we want trust by verification but did not say the magic words, which is i oppose a deal. all the other republican candidates with the possible exception of jeb bush, are going to say i oppose a deal. that's rand paul's problem, he's trying to move the republican party in that direction. i don't think the primary voters are buying this. >> brian, where is rand paul going to...

Places like detroit which he says would cut jobs by cutting corporate taxes and term limits on himself. he proposed term limits on members of the house and senate and here is one vision for the country that you won't be hearing from any other republican presidential candidate. >> i see an america where criminal justice is applied equally, and any law that disproportionally incarcerates people of color is repealed. >> joining me now my panel. brian dauerty, you've written a book about rand paul's father and today, you're quoted in "the new york times" saying that ron

Politician trying to have it both ways. i disagree. i think i'm more with lawrence than i am with steve, because what -- i've heard him say both things in that same speech. we want negotiation, we want trust by verification but did not say the magic words, which is i oppose a deal. all the other republican candidates with the possible exception of jeb bush are going to say i oppose a deal. that's rand paul's problem, he's trying to move the republican party in that direction. i don't think the primary voters are buying this. >> brian, where is rand paul going to go on this? is he going to have...