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Press." vivian salaama and rick stengel back with us here in the studio. former unseth for public diplomacy and public affairs at the state department in the obama years. also the former managing editor of "time" magazine. rick i'll begin with you. is this story tonight the first clear evidence that they always and really wanted to lift sanctions as that gentleman called it, cave on russia? >> well it's just very, very strange, brian. and i mean it all does seem to fall into line. i mean, the sanctions policy against russia, because of the annexation of crimea, the quasi invasion of ukraine wa...

Revealing it's the fact that we are talking about these diplomatic compounds that trump is going to meet with putin in july, that the statements from if white house after sergey lavrov came to the oval office for the famous meeting. talked fondly with him about russia in other words, brian, they are still pushing forward with this warming of relations despite everything. and i find that kinds of amazing. >> and vivian, at the same time we have mr. comey, the "new york times" kind of injected a question into the mix with a story they posted last night. he will testify unless he is blocked by th...

The state department in the obama years. also the former managing editor of "time" magazine. rick i'll begin with you. is this story tonight the first clear evidence that they always and really wanted to lift sanctions as that gentleman called it, cave on russia? >> well it's just very, very strange, brian. and i mean it all does seem to fall into line. i mean, the sanctions policy against russia, because of the annexation of crimea, the quasi invasion of ukraine was something that actually was strong and powerful and putin -- really hurt putin and the people around putin. people at the state ...