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Significant thing that congressman colmer, chairman ssman hairmacombers said in thew today with me is that thesegatin allegations that the fbi got date to twenty seventeen the first time the confidentiale humantn n informant, by the wayo credible he got two hundred thousand dollars i in payments. the fbi does not pay a lot of informants. that level of money, but kind of credible enough to get that sort of money that he firste brought it to the attention of the fbi in 2017, then again in eighteen nineteen and then again in the summe r of 2020. what does that mean? mean? it means when we were go...

Rich, with a loophole that nobody can justify? well, maybe, that is what's necessary. maybe that kind of heat would be enough to do it. otherwise, i don't know where democrats go. i suppose -- i mean, democrats could come up with maybe something else to fill this gap. but it is such an egregious, such a purposeless, and such an obvious buy off to wall street, and to the richest of the rich, that it's gonna be very hard to justify. one final point. both democrats and republicans have been the recipients of money from private equity, and hedge funds, and from the big money behind them. and so, t...

Manafort's part. >> can't think of a nonsinter version of the pardon? >> i can think of a faithless version of a pardon as well. one thing to keep in mind this raises the question of obstruction of justice. it also is a bribery problem. bribely is described legally as a quid pro quo for an official act. i think many lawyers look at this and see there's as ample evidence of obstruction in so many different ways over these two years. but once we get the dangling of a pardon, that is offering an official act in return of a thing of value. >> because the bribery is donald trump bribing paul manafo...

>> can't think of a nonsinter version of the pardon? >> i can think of a faithless version of a pardon as well. one thing to keep in mind this raises the question of obstruction of justice. it also is a bribery problem. bribely is described legally as a quid pro quo for an official act. i think many lawyers look at this and see there's as ample evidence of obstruction in so many different ways over these two years. but once we get the dangling of a pardon, that is offering an official act in return of a thing of value. >> because the bribery is donald trump bribing paul manafort for his silenc...