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Can expect to hear from him. >> we'll see if that messaging changes russia's behavior. still a test. still a question. jeff zeleny, nic robertson, thank you. joining us to speak more about this morning's meeting, the challenges and goals for biden, dana bash. if we can begin with this johnson/biden meeting. interesting. maybe awkward diplomat ically because johnson allied himself with trump. trump support brexit. that's something that johnson championed. now there's a new sheriff in town. is that a bridgeable gap for those two leaders? >> it is a bridgeable gap because president biden unders...

This week. she is the person sort of representing republicans here. if she does come to some sort of agreement with the white house, is that going to stick? does she speak to the rest of her party? >> no, absolutely not, not in any way, shape or form. we have to see if one day she might or might not. but as garrett and anna know well, we talk to a lot of republicans on capitol hill, not very few but a good portion are not interested in a trillion dollar bill. steph, i can't emphasize enough the space right now between the white house and republicans. i mean, i don't know how it's bridgeable if...

Will probably violate the deadline then that will be okay. if it turns out there aren't adequate turns of reference, deep trust then i suspect it will be a much shorter movie. in any vent the notion of a conflict ending agreement which is what the secretary has identified is an extraordinary bridge to even begin to imagine crossing. on issues like borders and security the gaps may, may be bridgeable. on refugees in jerusalem now, i think about the grand canyon. >> they got close at ten of the clinton administration. you were involved. they got close during the bush administration. don't they s...