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Having gubernatorial candidates or his fellow governors reticent to appear with him. so i think today was a step in the right direction. he doesn't have to be politically healthy for a presidential run next month or even the month after. he's got plenty of time to show the resiliency, he's going to have to show to come back from the public relations debacle around this bridge closing. >> it's going to be i think an impossible comeback with the polls collapsing on him. and there he is down at cpac trying to enjoy the day, hear a little applause. and back in new jersey, bridget kelly's lawyer is...

Now in this case it's "the new york times." and they think they have at least some kind of an advantage in trying to wage that war. >> well, let me go back to kate. i don't know you, kate. i've seen your record and how many big stories you have covered. you have covered maybe bigger stories than a bridge closing. but what is interesting about this is the hard work and my colleague rachel maddow has pointed this out. other people pointed out, the hard work that has been done by local reporters up there who don't make a lot of money, who don't get their name on television, who are not showboater...

Raking in the dough at least in the last month and probably the next couple of months if nothing else people want to know what he has to say about the scandal he's embroiled in right now. >> we all sort of have that u.s. weekly thing about us. joining me now is bill kristol. and chris kofinis. chris, let me start with you. when is enough enough on this? democrats in new jersey have this committee looking into this. both chairs are both democrats looking for a smoking gun since october. so far they have not found one. regardless of the look and feel of the administration and the damage that cou...

Republican party which is he doesn't have that many supporters on the right among his own people. and one of the ways in which he is trying to rally the right to his cause is to make this story about someone they all despise, which is in this case, earlier it was msnbc. now in this case it's "the new york times." and they think they have at least some kind of an advantage in trying to wage that war. >> well, let me go back to kate. i don't know you, kate. i've seen your record and how many big stories you have covered. you have covered maybe bigger stories than a bridge closing. but what is in...

>> no. unless he knew that she knew he knew. in other words, she -- if he called her into his office and she said, well, as you remember, we discussed this bridge closing, so what do you mean? that's one possibility. the other is just that he wants to keep as much distance as possible. as i say, i think the right attitude right now is skepticism and dig for more facts. but even with what we know for sure, this should be damaging to the governor. it's his office and his senior people who did this. >> tom more jb is an, thanks so much for coming in. >> sure thing. thanks for having me, wolf. c...