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Governor, he was copied on some e-mails from county staffers who were apparently working on the gubernatorial campaign while working at the office. and it's created kwoquite a sti. but how much of a stir? and what about this? steve? >> not much. this is a fire and a mess. first of all, the investigation that produced these e-mails, prosecutors, many of whom are democrats, 49 of the prosecutors of the people who work in the district attorney's office are democrats. chief investigator is a democrat. district attorney is a democrat. declined to charge scott walker with anything. declining he had ...

There, and you have a second investigation that looms over him based on the 2012 recall and no one knows what's going on behind closed doors. >> i think there is a distinction between bridge gate and this. the public understands the traffic jam better than they understand campaign laws. it's these e-mails that we don't know much about so far, that could kill him. reporters are going through all these e-mails right now, that could kill him. remember, he has a tough re-election coming up, he has to clear that before he even gets to 2016, and then he's going to have to deal with all the fallout t...

Him based on the 2012 recall and no one knows what's going on behind closed doors. >> i think there is a distinction between bridge gate and this. the public understands the traffic jam better than they understand campaign laws. it's these e-mails that we don't know much about so far, that could kill him. reporters are going through all these e-mails right now, that could kill him. remember, he has a tough re-election coming up, he has to clear that before he even gets to 2016, and then he's going to have to deal with all the fallout then. >> you have this new phenomenon which is the billionai...

Re-elected and maybe run for president. all this stuff is still out there, and you have a second investigation that looms over him based on the 2012 recall and no one knows what's going on behind closed doors. >> i think there is a distinction between bridge gate and this. the public understands the traffic jam better than they understand campaign laws. it's these e-mails that we don't know much about so far, that could kill him. reporters are going through all these e-mails right now, that could kill him. remember, he has a tough re-election coming up, he has to clear that before he even gets...

Basically assumes she's the democratic nominee. at the same time, things like this come out. because she's not a candidate right now, not in contact with journalists and doesn't have to respond. instead we have this industry where we debate it for her. >> if she does respond, we're going to attack her. people are going to attack her. what are we going to do? the poll numbers for her will go down as soon as she announces and as soon as she starts running. >> i think i'm going to quarrel with your use of the word tedious. if it's tedious, there's a lot of it. it seems like the media in a search ...