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>> we don't have a choice, stephanie, we have to get past it. that's what the caucus believes. that's why we were so unique. i wish we weren't so unique. we didn't need a problem solving caucus, it is congress. we have to be leaders. leaders come and lower the temperature of discourse, bridge a gap between differences and if anybody in a leadership position is not doing both of those, they're falling short of their responsibilities. we have to lead by example. treat each other with respect and civility, respect each other's opinions. that's how any functional relationship in our lives work. th...

So you were a mentor when you were a new senator to ted lugger. >> great guy. >> ultimately lost his primary for that reason. >> because he talked to me. >> because people couldn't stand to see their member, you know, bridge a gap on a human level. >> yeah. >> i think that's sad. marco rubio said it well a couple months ago you can't run a country when half hates the other and find a way to bridge that for many that aren't like us. >> good. perfect. >> but no sign we are getting close to bridging the deep very deep political divide. nbc finding president trump with an historic low approval rat...

Talking -- it's not just that we're reading different news but we don't talk to each other anymore. i think it would be good civic engagement at some point will require a level of civility i think. there's a lot of problems with our >>. [ applause ] [ applause ] . . >> there's a lot of problems with our politics that begin at home. i think we blame politicians a lot for the failure of us of each of us to grasp each other well. so you're mentor when you were a senator, dick lugar. >> great guy. love that guy. >> ultimately lost his primary for that reason. >> because he talked to me. >> because...