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Custody. that makes it hard to know how many reunifications have actually happened. >> on thursday health and human services secretary alex azar said this. >> it is under 3,000. i want to give you an outer bound. under 3,000, and that is the maximum set. it will not be 3,000. it will not be close to 3,000. it will be under 3,000. >> we're talking about children here, by the way. we're talking about round numbers of children who are separated from their parents. to be fair, under 3,000 represents all separated children in government hands, not just those taken under the new zero-tolerance polic...

>> since the rhetoric stopped, we had tough rhetoric, so remember they said he's too tough, he's going to cause a war, it's too tough. now they say he's too nice. he's too nice. >> pomp ye touched down in pyeongyang overnight. he says he spoke to the president while they were both in the air last night. let's go live to seoul and bringen cnn's andrew stevens. and mike pompeo, the secretary of state is under immense pressure to bring back evidence, time lines, some sort of progress for the north koreans and denuclearization. >> reporter: absolutely, christine. to bring back something. so few de...

Ripped them from their mamas and you are too incompetent to reunite them in time of a court order. officials say he ran out of oxygen attempting to return to a command center inside the cave. it underscores the danger and the huge challenges facing rescuers trying to devise a plan to get the boys and their coach out. let's bring in cnn's david mckenzie. just a tragedy. what exactly happened here? >> reporter: well, christine, the diver was 38 years old, a former sergeant of the thai special forces navy group. he was going in the late evening trying to deliver oxygen to those boys' chamber, b...

Night. the secretary of state tweeting the president, quote, believes that chairman kim sees a different brighter future for the people of north korea and we both hope that's true. let's go live to seoul and bring in cnn's andrew stevens. andrew, what concrete can secretary pompeo bring back following this third meeting with kim jong-un? >> reporter: well, he seems to have ruled out an actual time line, dave, of what specific steps north korea would take and when towards its denuclearization. remember the june 12th summit was really a statement, which was a commitment then for north korea. it ...