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Done that we otherwise wouldn't do, or should we make a case based on american history that we can legislate threw normal means and still have real debates? >> no, i think this is really important point to make. this is not a -- none of this is a lesson that brinksmanship works. it is a lesson that not compromising doesn't work if you want to get things done under a divided government there is nothing stopping the u.s. government, congress, and the president from coming to a compromise. all that republicans would need to do is accept a certain number of tax expenditure cuts which they already ...

Worry, they would go on to possibly shutting down the government next month, or, or they could wait a couple of months and breach the debt ceiling, both which would probably be significantly worse than using the sequester. they could of course choose to do none of them. they could choose to not destroy the economy for no particular reason. they could decide not to have terrible cuts that don't have a purpose behind them that honestly achieve nobody's goals, including those of deficit hawks. they have not come to that solution because it would require climbing down from trees they have all scur...

Possibly shutting down the government next month, or, or they could wait a couple of months and breach the debt ceiling, both which would probably be significantly worse than using the sequester. they could of course choose to do none of them. they could choose to not destroy the economy for no particular reason. they could decide not to have terrible cuts that don't have a purpose behind them that honestly achieve nobody's goals, including those of deficit hawks. they have not come to that solution because it would require climbing down from trees they have all scurried up. >> brinksmanship, ...

They could wait a couple of months and breach the debt ceiling, both which would probably be significantly worse than using the sequester. they could of course choose to do none of them. they could choose to not destroy the economy for no particular reason. they could decide not to have terrible cuts that don't have a purpose behind them that honestly achieve nobody's goals, including those of deficit hawks. they have not come to that solution because it would require climbing down from trees they have all scurried up. >> brinksmanship, as individual americans are watching what is going on in ...

Means and still have real debates? >> no, i think this is really important point to make. this is not a -- none of this is a lesson that brinksmanship works. it is a lesson that not compromising doesn't work if you want to get things done under a divided government there is nothing stopping the u.s. government, congress, and the president from coming to a compromise. all that republicans would need to do is accept a certain number of tax expenditure cuts which they already said they would accept in tax reform in that deal. they haven't done that because they don't want to compromise. and so th...