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Understanding what obstruction is versus lawful action. bob bauer, former white house council to president obama, thank you for joining us on short notice. >> a pleasure, thank you. >> we continue to absorb this information. the "new york times" reporting it first, "the washington post" has followed it up. the postis confirming that trump attempted to fire special counsel robert mueller last june that don mcgahn threatened to quit in order to stop the order from being enacted. more to come tonight. stay with us. because each day she chooses to take the stairs. more to come tonight. stay with u...

Were fed to the american people that were tried to be used, the russian phony dossier to influence an election. all right, peter, back to you. the one talking point that you hear and even like liberal joe and all these idiots in the media, you know, they are out there saying well, the fusion gps first was hired by some republican donor. but the fact is -- >> not true. >> sean: it was general op.. research prior to christopher steele who went to the russians, paid for the lies that the media and the democrats spread on donald trump to lie to the american people. >> that's exactly right. i mean,...

That's just a little different take of an old one where he has -- he's tacked this on to the front. so he's definitely using this to his benefit. >> so this is now showing up in actual tv advertising? >> yes. >> and let me ask you this, do you think the mcdaniel folks and conservative groups supporting mcdaniel believe that cochran folks withheld this information on purpose and have been orchestrating the slow roll-out here to make it look even worse by the day as we come up to the primary? what do you make of that allegation? >> well, i think the timing is definitely good coincidence or good ...