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They say no because they don't think there is anything on the other side of that door. but that's what the iranians say, there is no reason to walk through that door because that guy is going to be there. >> not only do they see bolton on the other side, but they also see trump. they don't know what to believe about trump. part of what you have to understand about the way he reacts to things is president trump's reaction is what the response is going the be to what he did in the next five seconds, not the next, you know, five weeks or five years. he doesn't think long-term. so the extent that ...

The table that everyone is looking at saying well, is president trump using this rhetoric and unwilling to actually carry it out? i think that's where the world is right now as they try to decide how much fight is behind a lot of these words that are coming from the president. >> and the president, his view of this is i decided no, i decided it wasn't proportionate to bomb raid or missile installations. he was told maybe 150 people would die. he said i'm not going to do that because they shot down a droid. he thinks that is an act of de-escalation. now he is anchored that iran's response is to...