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Have seen, the white men are leading. certainly also in the fund-raising as well. we'll see how bourque is received. he'll be here in an hour or so. he's been getting large crowds. there were folks lined up around the corner at this point for him. he's certainly gotten the treatment you wouldn't see a woman getting. the cover of "vanity fair." him there, the reaganesque echoes there. we haven't seen it in terms of the treatment of women. we have a long way to go. this thing has just started. we'll see where we end up. >> dana? >> i agree. i think -- i'm not sure i entirely agree with that. the...

Piece. she proves the point. the point of the piece was that, as a white male he had a certain privilege, which is that he could leave and go out on an excellent adventure because his wife was at home and could take care of the kids and a female candidate i don't think could do that without facing all sorts of criticism. i don't think a female candidate would have done it and felt the freedom to do it. that was the point i was making and she says, yes, i was at home to support the kids allowing him to go out on the road and leave the three kids at home. she's going to face -- he's going to fac...