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Function. yes, some of them need to be reformed, stream lined, brought up to date. need to be more culturally sensitive to living in america. i would be very concerned about the imams who trained them. what are the kind of sill by they are preaching. what they're preaching. we cannot just simply paint with this broad brush. we need to be very careful about because it tends to demonize the entire muslim community. >> laura: which is not what the intent is. scott, let's talk about this controversy in new york that has made some people say a slow news month of august quite chaotic. mayor bloomber...

Function. yes, some of them need to be reformed, stream lined, brought up to date. need to be more culturally sensitive to living in america. i would be very concerned about the imams who trained them. what are the kind of sill by they are preaching. what they're preaching. we cannot just simply paint with this broad brush. we need to be very careful about because it tends to demonize the entire muslim community. >> laura: which is not what the intent is. scott, let's talk about this controversy in new york that has made some people say a slow news month of august quite chaotic. mayor bloomber...

What members call rampant racism in the tea party. one of those who beg to differ, a republican and a tea party favorite. he will join us. first, from kansas city, where the naacp convention is still under way. it's washington bureau director hilary shelton. a lot of people in the tea party pushing back, saying, wait, maybe there are five people at a rally of 5,000. maybe there are 10 people at a rally who have objectionable signs. but you can't call a movement and paint a broad brush and say we are racist. we are americans who are mad about something or protest something and don't call us rac...

That would seem like a "what the" moment if there ever was one. >> we, there's been varying explanations of that with the series of things that needed to be done. but the bottom line, procedures were not followed and it's just absolutely outrageous and unacceptable. we are in the process of getting those people in to be tested. and there has to be special care given to them, clearly. they range from being worried sick to angry, as you would expect. but also, there's been a chilling effect of other veterans worrying about going to get services at the va. so we don't want to broad brush, you kno...

>> i wouldn't paint in broad brush and say that everybody who is involved or have gone to a tea party rally or a meeting are somehow on the fringe. some of them i think have some mainstream legitimate concerns. and my hope is that, as we move forward and we're tackling things like the deficit and imposing a freeze on domestic spending and taking steps that show we're sincere about dealing with our long-term problems, that some of that group will dissipate. >> how does he try to make sense of this politically, of this movement that could hurt? >> there's the great famous american bumper sticker...