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From us and steals from a lot of members and takes advantage of them and strong rememberas, you heard it a million times, that is a down the road issue. if well past the election issue, are you worried? >> charles: look, i mean, trade negotiations take a long time, we know that. tying this to an election for our membership doesn't make a lot of sense. we want a comprehensive deal. there are a lot of challenges in u.s./china relationship, whether intellectual property, whether it is subsidies, market access barriers, all of these will take time, we know. we'd love to see it, we would love to ha...

In washington, d.c., like that. he's totally exposing what everybody gets, which is that there are two different policies. to phil's point, i'm sort of almost innered to this groundhog day routine of saying if they did it. what i'm more interested in now is action. will trump at rand paul's urging kind of go easier on some of these sanctions? will he let russian legislators visit the u.s.? that's wrihere i think it gets more interesting, less him sowing doubts and more following up by easing up on putin. that could create a rubber meets the road issue with congress. they're okay, at least okay...

Destroy the power of the public employees unions and public employees who are passionate to preserve their own jobs. >> i always wonder why they keep talking about that. >> that is the reason why, to reduce the army on the other side. that's where the rubber meets the road issue is on this. >> there's an old expression in washington, people don't do their best work when they're being dumped on. it's phrased differently, but you get the point. if you want somebody to do a job, but speaker boehner is a federal employee. all the people that work for him, probably very hard, work for him, work for...