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A successful interdiction to prevent genocide. this situation is completely different. the russians, chinese, iranians are all part of this area. the best we can hope to do, the best we can hope to do militarily is to not use our military force directly. as you said, there's a fatigue. it's there. it's real. we need to be much more careful in how we apply military force. if we do, it has to be with nato, with turkey, with the jordanians in some form but having them lead and us support. i think we should continue to support the people of syria. they're been terrorized, there's no doubt. i want ...

Supposed to have representative government. >> and this isn't representative government. >> you know what you want, you want some bureaucrat in washington telling they have to have smoot roads and that's exactly what you just said. >> by the way, adam. we use smooth roads, police, firemen, we use the key things all the time to justify the money that gushes into government coffers that really a lot is wasted. let's be honest, a lot is rejected to crony and paying off political bunglers. don't you think that america has wised up to that. >> at the local level. people have a tremendous amount of ...