Company, it controls a lot of the media in australia, a lot of the newspapers in the uk, and here in the u.s. he's got "the wall street journal," the "new york post," and of course, he has fox news. >> and wildly profitable, i think is the answer. >> not to mention a broadcast network on top of that, the fox network. >> which people always forget, you know, how did he get to this point, jonathan? you know, from some newspapers in australia to global titan? >> well, it was a sort of step-by-step methodical process. and the key, really, to it was that, with each kind of step, he would accumulate...