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In our pocket money to take one of these flights, it will come. it will come. but it's going to be decades, i think. and we're going to see -- i think the real change will be when they could bring down the price of orbital tourist flight. a lot of people have forgotten that there have been tourists on the international space station and even to jim's point, a japanese journalist flew on mirror, i believe. so this is been building a long time. it will come. but i'm afraid we have to be patient about the price coming down because this is a sporty thing to achieve. >> yeah. colonel, let's talk ab...

Predicting to do this in 2008 and here we are 17 years later and it came to fruition and it is amazing. >> and i'm going to say, you're a young man so you have plenty of time, miles. >> jonathan mcdowell, there are branson and bezos and of course elon musk. and elon musk ahead of the game because his company has carried pay loads for governments that carried astronauts to the space station. for folks watching at home, though, when is a realistic time line for a trip to space in sub orbital flight as this is to be something that is not purely the realm of billionaires. >> well, unfortunately i ...

Space and colonizing space. you know what is so remarkable is just until a few years ago, only a select few governments could do this. u.s., china, russia. now you have spacex, virgin galactic, blue origin, and the number is just continuing to grow. i mean, what blue origin has been able to do and all of those other private space companies is truly astounding. i mean, people did not think that it was possible for private companies to do this just a few years ago, and now look what they've done. >> and, rachel, jeff bezos has been liquidating a billion dollars of amazon stock to fund blue origi...

The money put into blue origin, it pays salaries to then people who come up with ideas of their own and go off and try to create even new, you know, unheard of ideas. >> right. and what you don't hear as much about are all of these smaller start-ups, rocket lab in new zealand has been launching small satellites, relativity you say with the 3-d printed rockets. and astra launching from alaska. it's had a couple of failures so far, but they're going to get there eventually. there is this whole eco system of start-up companies with more like silicon valley investment than rich billionaires. they'...

Probably there is going to be a press conference at 11:30 eastern time, 10:30 local time here with jeff bezos and the others, so we'll obviously bring that to you as well. colonel chris hatfield, how, how important is this? because obviously, look, a lot of people will be looking at this skeptically, look, this is billionaires playing with toys, and this is stuff that doesn't have any impact on, you know, a family's life right now. hardly anyone can afford a flight like this. what is the importance of this? >> there will always be cynical criticism, no matter whatever happens in history. and o...