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More now on the irs' targeting of conservative groups. remember the head of the house panel investigating the scandal saying, he may soon call the top agency official yet again back to testify. lois lerner yesterday read an opening statement, telling lawmakers she didn't do anything wrong and then invoked the fifth amendment and refused to answer any questiones. some g.o.p. lawmakers say in doing so she waived her right against incriminating herself. she runs ther is division on tax exempt organizations. we're live in washington with more. reporter: the exit from the hearing may be a met afor ...

Reports of even more. >> yeah. the entire area, shepard, some reports it's hard to keep track of them. it's hard to get verification of it this is east webster high school, what was east webster high school. the auditorium completely collapsed. the basketball court, go anywhere you look in the school and everything completely destroyed. go back towards the fieldhouse, destroyed. the visitor's bleachers pummeled in across that fieldhouse. this happened 2:30 in the morning, shepard, it's a few times when a tornado happens at night. had this tornado happened in the daytime there would have been f...

So this is the type of thing that hits small businesses, that will hit families of two or three kids with a salary of only $250,000. that is an all of lot to use mortgage interest deduction on. these are considered nonstarters and yet the president is put them at the starting line. >>shepard: rough road ahead, carl. and now to egypt, a lot to do. protests are continuing there and egypt's ambassador to the united states says hosni mubarak could be in bad health. mubarak booted from office by a popular uprising. he is 82. two newspapers report today that the former president is refusing to take ...

Things we want to do with the tax system and revenue system we have now. basically, even with obama freezing optional spending, entitlement spending -- >> that's his longer term plan. but does he address the short-term issue? >> he didn't address the politics of it. it's inevitable if we want to have anything remotely like a balanced budget, a budget going forward or a debt where we're not paying a huge amount of taxes just to service the debt we have to raise taxes. >> politically, right. i don't think anybody is saying that that is easy or anybody wants that at all. >> rick stengel, "time" m...