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Brought with him for lunch, and there should be some water in there that is water he can drink. there's no communication at this point. i don't know if there would be any first aid equipment -- equipment, like that, in that particular area where he's working. bill: just a theory here, bruce, but how did his brother make it out and him not? >> they probably wouldn't be working exactly in the same area. they could be 20, 30 feet apart, working in the same tunnel. and if his brother was near the front edge of the cave-in he would have a much better chance of escaping it, and if he was working in ...

There's a possibility of fire, but this is not a coal mine, this is a silver mine, which means the methane, you wouldn't have the methane problem, which would cause an explosion. bill: that could save his life. we'll see. so the tunnel today, how far will they get and what's the method, bruce, to try and reach him? >> well, they're not -- the miners and rescuers aren't allowed to go out in what we call unsupported roof, that means they have to take the support with them, which would be timblers -- timbers or rock fixures or something like that but my understanding is they're bringing in a remo...

So far crews have tunld 37 feet and bruce dile is a main safety expert out of charlotte. sir, good morning to you. we call on you for your expertise in matters like these and we have yet another one. is he alive? is he make -- can he make it? >> if he was under the material itself from the roof, more than likely he's not. but if he was on the back side of where the material fell in, his chances are very good surviving and they get to him. bill: what kind of material would that be at that depth? >> well, they're down about 6000 feet. if, say, the roof of the mine that they're working under fell...