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That's not something i say about paul ryan's budget which is viable. if you follow romney's numbers all the way to the end, they just end up looking like a fantasy. on the spending side as you can see here, mr. romney says he will bring federal spending under 20% of the overall economy and cap it there by 2016. in practice, that amounts to a huge cut. over the next ten years it is a cut of almost $2 trillion more than is even in paul ryan's budget. so mr. romney's budget is way more severe on the spending side than mr. ryan's. and mr. romney says he will do that $7 trillion cut without touchin...

If we gave them different expectations. when we say the expectation is not to be honest and not to be factual, we allow them among other things aside from just being untruthful to the american people, we allow them to back themselves into promises and into theories, if they don't fit the moment. so michael steele made the point, and it's correct, that one of the main things a convention does is they put forward a vision for the country. if that vision for the country is not based upon sound premises, if it is on a foundation of sand, it is not going to work. but having promised, having lashed ...

Any had demanded that akin quit the campaign, he'd be gone. >> that was sick, deluded, ego maniac rush limbaugh. today, paul ryan made the mistake of allowing reporters to ask him a few questions on his campaign plane. >> congressman, you co-sponsored abortion-related legislation with congressman akin. do you regret that now? >> that bill passed i think by 251 votes. it was bipartisan. i think we had 251 votes, 16 democrats. i'm proud of my pro-life record. >> knowing that more questions on his abortion record were coming, paul ryan tried to make his escape before being stopped for a question ...

His match in terms of an etch-a-sketch candidate here? seriously. is this mitt romney's match in terms of being able to spin 100 times simultaneously? >> well, i think it is. you know, i was thrilled as -- were many democrats when paul ryan was put on the ticket because while romney can somewhat distance himself from anybody's policies, including his own, which he tried to do, ryan's are down in black and white and we have congressional candidates all over the country, republicans who voted for that budget, who cannot distance themselves from it, and we are going to be reminding the americans ...

Flip burgers when your dad died. they're being nice. jon: some would say that it shows that, you know, mitt romney and the republicans in general are ready to have an argument about big issues that the future of the country in terms of budgets and things like medicare, other entitlement programs, that that's what they want to talk about. is it? >> i think that's the positive spin, actually. and i don't disagree that conservatives want to have that argument, and i think even liberals want to have that argument. but i don't think the romney campaign wants to have that argument. they did this, in...