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Donald trump talks about paul manafort. who is the b.s.-er here? >> isn't it funny how that happens here? right? that interview took place when the idea of psycho graphic profiling was breaking out in the news. it starts looking creepy, starts looking creepy for the trump wizards behind the data campaigning. it looks creepy for facebook. but here we are once again in all of this, finding out that what we were told wasn't what it was, and facebook's case they spent the weekend -- into last weekend with the times, london times broke these stories, down playing it, threatening lawsuits. we want t...

On facebook. i don't like it was decisive but i think facebook was. >> kimberly: facebook stock plunged, sending the market dow down. enough with this facebook thing, greg. it's out of control. i knew they were stealing. >> greg: here is the thing. silicon valley, i am no fan off. to me, they are replacing wall street as the universal billing of a bunch of wealthy, heartless elitists who think they live above everybody else. i think, i hate to use the phrase virtue signal, they like to cover themselves by being very left-wing and acting hypocritical, banning people on twitter or facebook, but ...

Understand that difference. with trump and i'm sure everyone knows people like this in their own live, he bs's. thoerd in other words, he throws stuff against the wall and throws information that may be true, may not be true, it's whatever he can do to get through that moment, that situation. and his understanding of the line between what is fact and fiction is not -- is not very clear. and so that's the way that i started to look at him, much more as a bs'er than a liar. >> well, the other day when he was called out, he said that's what i was told, that's what i heard. and then we saw the sou...

Attacks -- why are you laughing at that? >> it's just the understatement there. >> saying he has trouble with the truth but he's saying the "l" word is tough to say. when you're talking about the highest office in the land and the president, if you call the president a liar, it's a really tough thing. journalists struggled with it in the beginning, politicians as well. and finally you have to call it what it is, allie is allie at night and all day long. >> i want to borrow on argument from our colleague fareed zakaria who has made the point that trump is not so much a liar but he is a bs'er. i...

That trump is not so much a liar, but he is a bs-'er. in other words, liars understand when they're lying. they understand the difference between fact and fiction. in some ways, it might be better to have someone as a liar as president, because they understand that difference. with trump, and i'm sure everyone knows people like this in their own lives, he bss. in other words, he throws stuff against the wall and throws out arguments and information that is just maybe true, may not be true. it's whatever he can do to get through that moment, that situation. and his understanding of the line bet...