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Foot? now, i have sciatica. if someone asked me, i would know immediately if it's my right or my left? so i think you're right on that. >> he's gotten pretty far as a bs'er. it's not going to change now. >> i know there are a lot of people out there thinking this is moment in the republican party, but the perception is politicians lie. just put in any president's name -- >> not like this. >> well, there was a book published, bush lies. i'm sorry this is offensive to you. you just put in any president's name from obalm bah to nixon and put in lies. >> but not like this. >> let me give you a dem...

>> when he was asked about the other presidents not calling, and then we saw the sound bite when he was asked in 2015 about the bone spurs and the reporter said, which foot? he said, it's in the record. now, i have sciatica, if someone said which side? i would know. so i think you're right on that. >> he's gotten pretty far as a bs'er. >> i want to make sure, because there are a lot of people out there who are think thing is a watershed moment for the republican party. but the american perception is that politicians lie. just put in any president's name, obama -- >> not like this. >> there was...

President to rd things, do things. often they're describing it in ways that they're talking down to him. >> and we have president obama news out from those who know him, who say that he called donald trump nothing but a bs'er. i'm not using the whole word because i'll get fired. >> i'm not familiar with that story line. i know there's a lot of obama officials who have been watching what's going on here. you can tell from these stories by the fbi, they're setting both the current and former administration officials. that's a point of contention. they say look, they are obama holdovers in the go...

Slightly they're saying w need to dig into these facts. >> a lot of people are wondering what president obama really thinks about this. and he has been very presidential and post presidential, but "people" magazine says they have a clue, what are they reporting? >> they're reporting that president obama told two friends back in november, awhile ago, and they used the word a bs-er and i won't say the whole thing, but something that was not all too kind about president trump as we certainly know barack obama had very tough words for trump in the 2016 election cycle. and i think this adds just a ...

Whether that's an endorsement based on issues or whether he's got a slightly different reason for preferring president obama. >> what reason would that be? >> well, i think when you have somebody of your own race that you're proud of being president of the united states, i applaud colin for standing with him. he supported a bankruptcy and eventual support from the federal government after the bankruptcy. but the important thing is that's the past. >> no, he did not. >> that's the past. >> that's the moving target that colin powell talks about. that's his last position, john. you can't -- you s...