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So it's like the impeachment is this thing we have to go through but nobody thinks that trump is actually going to be removed and people are still assuming he's going to be a formidable opponent in the final election. so if that's the implicit calculus we all have, why is anybody surprised that it is in grabbing people? >> melissa: that conflicts with what people who aren't in the bubble think. i can't tell you how many people have said "there's no way he can win back time." >> harris: i was scrolling down on this new "abc news" poll, 51% of americans believe the president's actions were wrong...