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Night. he's got a very clever way to test the waters for running for president. he's big on gerrymandering, re-districting. that's where the democrats got their heinies whooped is at the state level. they lost all of these state legislatures all across the country. that's where the districts are done. you're going to have a not trickle down but you're going to have a bubble up problem with these kinds of things. but that's politics and power. what i'm saying is in this country, you've got to find common ground. you have to find points of accommodation. you have to. >> but you know what? this i...

Unless kavanaugh was completely derailed, he was always going to get through. they can't stop it. >> you realize the minority of the country and people in the senate, in the congress who represent a minority of america are actually leading america and making laws right now, by the millions. by the millions. from a there are millions more people who are from bigger urban areas or from bigger states, and they don't have the representative. that's the whole thing, the popular vote versus the electoral college. >> look, you have endemic challenges. we had eric holder on the other night. he's got a...