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That goes in europe where they privatize the postal service delivery. you have to wonder how will the rural areas of the country be served in a private model? >> david: mike, if we privatize, would we have to have the price controls they have overseas? >> no. i don't buy the argument that the mail won't be delivered to small towns. this was the fear tactic -- >> ups said that. they said it to the "l.a. times." >> this is the fear tactic they use when they deregulated the airlines, no one will fly to small towns or small areas. in fact, there are flights to small towns than before deregulation....

Survive. maybe to a mixture of a privatization and public model. >> david: on the other happened, everybody knows what mike osanian is talking about. we've waited in line and see them reading the novels under the counter and taking their time. great if they had the ups efficiency. right? >> on top of that, they want to close the post office on saturday and increase rates. why should we subsidize that? there hasn't always been a monopoly. if you look to the first 100 years of the country letter carriers were private. independent contractors. no monopoly. we should allow the competition as steve...