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And richard branson. i mean, how have you managed? where did all the money come from? we raised venture capital out of the united states, out of silicon valley. and it's true that we raised a significantly less amount than all of our competitors, in that sense. but, i mean, we have a saying at rocket lab. and it's in fact the reason why we named our rocket engine after ernest rutherford. ernest rutherford very famously said, "we have no money, "so we have to think." said, "we have no money, and, you know, sometimes an over—capitalised start—up is not the best thing. and so we had very slim...

But, i mean, we have a saying at rocket lab. and it's in fact the reason why we named our rocket engine after ernest rutherford. ernest rutherford very famously said, "we have no money, "so we have to think." and, you know, sometimes an over—capitalised startup is not the best thing. and so we had very slim resources, but that drove really innovative solutions. peter, just briefly explain to the uninitiated the kind of things rocket lab is doing now and what it is you're working on over the next few years. the way to describe the space industry is you can largely bucket it into three lumps. ...

Have very slim resources. just briefly explain to _ have very slim resources. jut briefly explain to the uninitiated, the kind of things rocket lab is doing now and you're working on. the way to describe the space industry, you can _ way to describe the space industry, you can bucket it into three lumps. one is— you can bucket it into three lumps. one is launch. there's about a 10,000,000,000-dollar one is launch. there's about a 10,000,000,000—dollar opportunity. then there's infrastructure. it's about— then there's infrastructure. it's about a — then there's infrastructure. it's abou...