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Crossed into rockford, illinois, and stayed at the best western. why? political strategy, of course. with them out of state, there weren't enough senators to vote on the bill. one of the 14 democrats spoke with cnn this morning. we will hear from him, first. then a republican supporter of the budget chimes in. >> in this bill, which is supposed to be just a technical minor bill, he throws in the union busting provision. so, gwynne that is why we're having the problems we're having in wisconsin right now and why we had to leave the state to slow the process down to bring the governor back to th...

Their hard one collective bargaining rights that are very generous compared to what public sector -- public union workers enjoy in other states. they don't want to give those up. they say that this is not necessarily about money. there are other ways to cut this budget deficit but they don't want their collective bargaining rights to be taken away from them. >> casey wian in madison, wisconsin, thank you very much. 14 democrats from wisconsin senate left the state over this. they made a beeline for the border crossing to rockford, illinois, and stayed at the best western. j in political stra...