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Difference, it's not political reality. what does the next six months look like? >> i don't think they're intended to be political reality, which is unfortunate. because the budget document, in a family, a budget document isn't a statement of -- >> vision. >> of vision. a budget document is what you're actually hoping to spend over a period of time. so i think the next six months, frankly, a very difficult. being in congress has been a fascinating job, but it's also been incredibly frustrating, because of the fact that people are so intransigent, they're so set in their ways. but i think over ...

Up, this budget. the president hopefully will unveil his tardy budget at some point here, and we're going to be wrangling on values, competing values between the two parties. i don't think we're going to see anything in the long term. i don't think ryan talking about whatever he's going to talk about in that ten-year budget document is going to be all of that relevant to those discussions kpepexcept for just laying down some markers on long-term values. >> let me bring in senator bob casey, a pennsylvania democrat, and a member of the finance committee as well as the foreign relations committe...

Full potential. so that's what he's trying to do, get moving. >> but what is -- as you see, it as a democrat, what is the fight about? when people say they're always fighting in washington, there's always dysfunction, there's all this stuff, what is the night. >> the fight when it comes to the budget is about what are our priorities and our values. and the budget document is filled with a bunch of numbers but those numbers say a lot about who we are. so what the president says is he wants to put together a budget that grows the economy and strengthens the middle class, and that means getting r...

We're going from one manufactured crisis to another, the country cannot be at its full potential. so that's what he's trying to do, get moving. >> but what is -- as you see, it as a democrat, what is the fight about? when people say they're always fighting in washington, there's always dysfunction, there's all this stuff, what is the night. >> the fight when it comes to the budget is about what are our priorities and our values. and the budget document is filled with a bunch of numbers but those numbers say a lot about who we are. so what the president says is he wants to put together a budget...

Government reaction to the spending cuts. the a.p. reporting that documents show the homeland security department released some 2,000 illegal immigrants in the days leading up to the cuts. we go live to los angeles with the details on this. that's a lot more than we first believed. >> reporter: absolutely. not only were they released, but according to the a.p., the homeland security department had planned to let another 3,000 go this month. this number found in internal budget document, significantly higher than the 300 that the obama administration acknowledged had been released to trim the b...