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opportunity to do something big. we have a chance to stabilize america's finances for a decade, for 15 years or 20 years. if we're willing to seize the moment. what that would require would be some shared sacrifice and a balanced approach that says we're going to make significant cuts in domestic spending. and i have already said i'm willing to take down domestic spending to the lowest percentage of our overall economy since dwight eisenhower. it also requires cuts in defense spending. and i've said that in addition to the $400 billion that we've already cut from defense spending we'...

Effort to overturn the new law. do you support that? >> absolutely. gregg: why? >> senate bill five, it's a devastating attack on collective bargaining, and on working people, and it's shameful. it's union busting, and in truth, it's union busting camouflaged as a budget fix, but the collateral damage are police officers, firefighters, teachers, people who work for a living. it's just not right. gregg: but look, families and businesses have had to adapt to tougher economic conditions. shouldn't government have to adapt as well? >> government does adapt. in the last budget, public employee unio...

I heard somebody shouting "showers" earlier. that sounds like a great idea. even for me. >> so maybe they say some of them need some showers. there they go, the protestors with their drums, leaving the capitol retund da. but a lot of serious news coming out of wisconsin, this whole union battle today. now we're in week number three. thousands of state workers are facing the threat of losing their jobs. the republican governor scott walker says he will send out 1500 layoff notices today unless at least one of those 14 senate democrats returns to the state capitol to fix this whole budget fix, v...

High. so this democrat towing the party line, blaming the republican governor to this happening. >> okay. david mattingly, thanks to you. john erbenbach is one of the 14 democrats who has run to illinois rather than vote on the governor's budget fix. in the past couple of weeks and really the last few days, is there anything you've heard from perhaps governor walker or the republicans that convinces you maybe you should go back to your state? >> well, we were actually from what i understand pretty close to an agreement. the governor even admitted that yesterday during his press conference, tha...

Eastern >> back to the budget bargaining table. he signed a stop gap bill to keep it running for another two weeks. confirming with msnbc news this afternoon's meeting between joe biden and republican and democratic leaders of congress, it is still on. they're negotiating a longer term budget fix in this as the white house gets ready to duke it out again with republicans the president is getting more flack from the nation's mayors. they are complaining the president's proposed budget cuts into community grant money that will slash funding for all sorts of programs, including affordable housing...