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They are gaming us and they want to wait until after the election. it's more sinister than that. they really -- these are tough, ugly political things. voters are going to respond and being owe be unhappy. you know, it is not like, you know, doing the moral right thing and completing a budget and trying to do the right thing for the country, it's gaming the people. >> i think that's true. i know it may be seen as partisan. but the president decided not long after the simpson-boll commission met, he would not make tough decisions on tough spending issues. harry reid decided the same thing. for ...

Raising the debt ceiling and more spending. i don't buy this bill, i don't like this at all. bill: you don't buy what? >> it's a dog and pony show. it's republicans standing up voicing outrage over something they should have fought back in august. house republicans dropped the ball on that super committee deal. they had an opportunity to really put democrats in a corner and push for big cuts and they didn't do it. now you have the president is going to put a budget forward, finally, in the next couple of weeks, bill, i think now republicans have to put forth and alternative and they've got to ...

the president said he wanted a deal by friday, so lawmakers met with him at the white house day after day after day. they took a break on friday, and the president pushed again. >> if washington operates as usual, and can't get anything done, let's at least avert armageddon. >> joining me now, white house budget director, mr. lou. thank you for being here. >> thank you, candy. >> we are told by sources since the white house meeting on thursday and this morning, there has been no progress. do you concur? >> a lot has been going on since the white house on thursday night. >> there has ...

Can there be negotiating going on? >> the president wants to raise the debt ceiling. i want to see, i want to see revenue being generated by having a robust growing vibrant economy. the last thing you do in 9.1% unemployment is raise taxes on anyone. americans realize our problem is not that we are taxed too little, but spend too much. the problem is the spending. that is what we have to get under control. >> so moving forward, was dt no matter to take a recess or not, if everyone is standing where they were quite honestly 30 or 60 days ago, how do you move this forward and everything that you...

Republicans halfway. the reality is, you're very far apart. there's a lot of fuzzy math on both sides. the reality is, you are far apart on cutting spending for this particular year. how do you bridge this and avoid a shut down in two weeks? >> i would take exception. we're not that far apart. we're at over $50 billion in cuts. the house passed the hr-1, which was $100 billion. so we're over halfway there. >> a vote they're relies on numbers, on a budget that was never passed, it's easy to pass that past the american people. the reality is you're 1/6 of the way there. however you slice it, the...