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raising the debt ceiling and more spending. i don't buy this bill, i don't like this at all. bill: you don't buy what? >> it's a dog and pony show. it's republicans standing up voicing outrage over something they should have fought back in august. house republicans dropped the ball on that super committee deal. they had an opportunity to really put democrats in a corner and push for big cuts and they didn't do it. now you have the president is going to put a budget forward, finally, in the next couple of weeks, bill, i think now republicans have to put forth and alternative and they've got to argue for more cuts even though they are unlikely to get them. this symbolic stuff, it's sickening. they've got to stop that. bill: are you take that republicans have lost this debate already? or are you suggesting a strategy where they can regain their footing. >> i don't see how they can regain their footing, they have to put out their claim that they are for lower spending.
he could have gotten elected over and over again in illinois. >> here said he didn't want to run for president and he has tough damage there. i don't like to use the word hit man, but is he going to be the bulldog for mitt romney? >> in a lot of ways i think that was in a way how chris christie could be effective for his party and his tough language. what he said ends up getting attention. in fairness on that one charge, republicans did walk away from his offer on tax increases and also entitlement in july. president obama met with republicans time and time again and this super committee deal was an entirely different matter. >> for chris christie made that point, what he was saying would have been proven wrong and no sense of him being at microphone.
he likes romney than everyone elses gives to romney. >>neil: that would be a big deal. next is a big thing and it looks like he is by virtue of the silence toward obama and behind the scenes it looks like he will push in favor of romney. a lot of thing could happen. romney might not win. >>neil: or the president's numbers look better. >>guest: right, right, but if it stays as they are, where unemployment is imagine naturally better, they will support romney. i think --. >>neil: if you are romney you are not breaking about that tha? >>guest: i don't know. the public isn't crazy about wall street, but, i read the editorial pages left and right and people are thinking that we need wall street around. we need banks to finance deals and to bring companies public. >>neil: the failed super committee deal or looked like failure, we will get the exact
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yes the super committee fit fails, which it looks like it is going to, there are automatic cuts that go into place, but as far as accountability for the people, you know, they still maintain their jobs and we are still with this big debt issue. >> the bow hr-rbs es-simpson report was the only thing that started out in the bipartisan fashion and has grown. we have about 140-plus members of congress both in the house and senate that said go large, go big, go 4 trillion or more. it has a great template. we should be voting upon that. i sent a letter to all the leaders urging them to that i can that bowles-simpson report, put it in a bill fashion and let's vote on it. that's what we need for the next generation. jenna: why do you think that would work when this compromise deal that looks like it was out there. there are no specifics by the way really by either side on what the super committee deal would actually be. why do you think now the bowles-simpson plan might be when it was voted down? >> well, it was voted -- we
no super committee deal means no deal on taxes or entitlements and no plan of what to do with the major budget components like the payroll tax holiday and unemployment benefits. now instead of 12 people trying to figure it out, it is up to the full congress. california congressman kevin mccarthy is the republican whip in the house and he joins me now. thanks for coming on the program. >> thanks for having me, luke. >> so whip mccarthy, from your vantage point, you know these guys, why did this super committee go down? they're not ideological flame throwers. why wasn't there even some semblance of usuccess at $1.2 trillion in cuts. >> there's a little time left, but it doesn't look promising so far. i think sometimes politics plays into this. i think sometimes people want to have it not be successful. some of the message i've heard coming through from the other side -- not members on the
and do not forget --. >>neil: did you see the denny's grand slam thanksgiving special. >>guest: i am not a denny's fan. >>neil: just trying to offer you solutions. have a great thanksgiving if i don't see you. >>guest: you, too, thanks. >>neil: she has been right. a super committee deal by thanksgiving? well, not looking too good, super deals for shoppers on thanksgiving, and this lady predicted that, walmart is the latest to start black friday a day early on thursday. thanksgiving. are they worried? what does that tell you? >>guest: i know, they are being proact i. i was here a few weeks ago i said they would put out all the stops. we used to have black friday,
other bailouts couldn't get their act together, sianara or whatever the proper term. >> we need some tough medicine. >> neil: the imf says it's tough medicine. >> it's not tough enough. what i've seen is more like what we see in america, maybe a decrease in the rate of growth of government spending, right around the edges, but this path of record deficits, record bailouts, the federal reserve, quantitative easing, it's making our economic crisis worse. it's deepening the hole and threatening a crack around the world as we see this policy of bailing out record bailouts. >> neil: congresswoman, we're getting reports that there could be a super committee deal on trimming debt over the next ten years. maybe substantially higher than the figures we were earlier told they need to shave about 1 1/2 trillion dollars, talk is, they might have a 4 trillion dollar deal on the table.