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They're business friendly. their tax base is lower. no state tax in texas. no state tax in florida. whereas ohio has got a high tax rate, so does new york, so does california, so does massachusetts. and they are not business-friendly. there are regulations up the wazoo on these businesses. so the businesses say now, where am i going to go? they will head down to the sun belt. that's what this is all about. it's about bringing back business to individual states and these governors believe that the unions are standing in the way of that that's what it is. >> well, bill, it's about two things. yo...

Gregg: fox news alert, just now getting further details on the saudi arabian student in college in texas, studying chemical engineering. there is his mug shot. the latest details, he planned to hide the bombs inside dolls and baby carriages to blow of dams, nuclear plants and the home of former president george w. bush in dallas. we'll give you further details as we get them. jenna: well, right now a stalemate, threatening indiana's budget. democrats have fled to illinois, refusing to show up for work. their boycott, derailing key bills, including potentially the state budget. indiana is facin...

Whereas ohio has got a high tax rate, so does new york, so does california, so does massachusetts. and they are not business-friendly. there are regulations up the wazoo on these businesses. so the businesses say now, where am i going to go? they will head down to the sun belt. that's what this is all about. it's about bringing back business to individual states and these governors believe that the unions are standing in the way of that that's what it is. >> well, bill, it's about two things. you're completely right in every sentence you just uttered. that is part of what this fight is about. ...

They're business friendly. their tax base is lower. no state tax in texas. no state tax in florida. whereas ohio has got a high tax rate, so does new york, so does california, so does massachusetts. and they are not business-friendly. there are regulations up the wazoo on these businesses. so the businesses say now, where am i going to go? they will head down to the sun belt. that's what this is all about. it's about bringing back business to individual states and these governors believe that the unions are standing in the way of that that's what it is. >> well, bill, it's about two things. yo...

Actually close the budget gap. the actual mechanism doesn't decrease or increase the budget by one penny. why not declare victory for now on the money and say we'll deal with the issue of unionization later. he'll still have the votes in the republican state senate. >> governor, i think that's a great question. i'm having a little difficulty hearing you, but it's not one i can answer. it's a question that has to be put to governor walker and i think he has made it clear several times when it's been put to him, and that is that he feels very strongly that he needs the whole loaf. >> well, look,...