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This is not a budget issue. they're simply saying to women you can't go anywhere to the health care provider that's been providing you with quality care for more than 95 years in america. >> close to a century. cecile, as you watch this debate on the outside looking in and some have said this, how does it feel to see so many men basically discuss women's health issues here? >> well, i think women across america are very concerned, and frankly men are, too. we have heard fromç hundreds o thousands of folks. i just heard from carolyn smithers the other day. she's from florida, got her first pa...

Cost of contracts that were negotiated ten years ago that are coming due, and you can't afford it. so where do you draw the line. that's the balancing act that a lot of these governors are having to face. >> in terms of making that argument, though, and making that the national argument, to hear you say that makes a lot of -- liberals in particular, but democrats broadly, very excited and hopeful that republicans will take your advice because of three things. number one, states that are highly unionized do not have worse budget problems than states that are not highly unionized. the idea that ...

This and letting the process play out on capitol hill. what we do know, though, in terms of looking at this thing full circle, thomas. this is probably the harshest it's been on the budget issue. on a scale of 1 to 10 how probable is a government shutdown, it's looks like it's past the 5 area and more towards probable right now. because there seems to be no consensus on what the number should be. >> hey, luke, i'm sorry to interrupt you. we got to go to georgetown university. >> in mcdonald gym. >> you're absolutely right. >> take care. thank you! thank you! thank you so much. thank you, eve...

But there was some optimism on the senate floor this morning. >> spoke with the white house this morning, there's conversations going with the white house and the republican leadership in the house. and i think that this matter, with a little bit of good fortune, could move down the road in the next day or two to get us to a point where we can have something done. >> nbc's luke russert covers capitol hill for us. and luke, some positive words from the majority leader. we saw boehner respond to the president's address on libya. but how quickly does he need to shift his focus back on to the ongo...

Being talked but because there isn't a hard number on what the involvement in libya will cost but everyone here understands it will be a big number. and when you refer to majority leader reid's comments this morning, soft spoken and a bitten couraging, that happened before a new piece of news, and that is t"the new york times" reporting on a conference call with reporters where senate democrats were going to talk about the budget issue. and senator chuck schumer, who is in leadership, was talking to his colleagues, encouraging them to use the word "extreme" when referring to republicans and th...