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>> where's his experience in that area? >> i think what dr. carson brings, he's not a politician. he'll say that openly, he's not a politician. we believe he's a statesmen and his wisdsdom will allow him to bring the kinds of people together to lead. that's what america is looking for. we're not looking for -- i love politicians, but we're not looking for career politicians with the same old answers. dr. carson also recognizes that he may not have ever done this before, but there are a lot of things, as we know, that he has never done. but people -- what you see out on the trail every day is p...

From washing dishes and toilets all the way to become an aerospace engineer. it is not just about what we did. more important, what we're going to do next to help the next generation. >> because of your personal history, what is it like to have the number one catholic on the planet, god's voice on earth, talking directly to you? >> he has -- he has no -- it is no words that we can express. it's -- he's a latin pope, too, so on top of that, he's so special to us, as latin people, as immigrants, to have the leader of our catholic church in our home. >> you've been in philadelphia for ten years. ...

Have to start to talk about policies. if he doesn't he may actually continue to do well on the republican side. but he won't transaattract independents. >> is he smart right now to play to his advantages and strengths, skipping the soap box stuff, and ramping up in the open fields and creating a interest in his candidacy will that will puch push him a long way. >> at some point he'll have to talk policy but i agree with henry he's doing what he should be. and it is working because he's at the top of the polls and at the top of the these two polls. if scott walker doesn't win iowa, i mean i kno...

The problem. for governors, on the other happened it's not easy campaigning around the country when you have popularity and budget problems at home. bret? >> carl thank you. next in the grapevine, a failure to communicate for folks who are up to whatever.

Violence on behalf of officers. >> tom fuentes, to you, if you're in the camp that wants these, should these be federally mandated and should this be state by state, a county by county, city decision? >> there are so many police departments across the country and larger cities that are having tremendous budget problems and if you go with this tulsa incident with the reserve officer in the arrest of a vienlt, gun-running criminal and they have a reservist out there 73 years old that tells me they don't have as many police officers that they need and to spend more money on this, you're right. it...