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Board eventually but right now you're looking at a case of whack a moel. if you give something to ron johnson on pass-throughs that costs money. and they're pretty constrained on what they're trying to do on budget rules. the big question right now is will the political imperative end up winning out? >> pass something, pass something. >> regardless of the policy. by the end of the year give ourselves an achievement going into the election year, give president trump an achievement going into 2018 in the mid-terms. will that win out over individual policy concerns, individual provision concerns?...

You compare the experiences of those two types of countries. a big lis chterature that looks that. we go through the papers and show, if this paper is true what wage effect do you get? most is well north of $4,000. that's where the number comes from. middle, orange tie? >> the tax reform proposal is that the corporate tax rate is cut permanently. the individual tax rate phases out after ten years. why in your view is that such a good idea? >> so the president supports permanent tax cuts for the middle class and permanent tax cuts for corporations and that's the objective of the planners of thi...

Finance committee unanimously supported the addition. phil mattingly joins us from the hill. clearly a lot at stake for the republicans. >> no question at all. and that is about revenue, plain and simple. $378 billion to be exact. that's what the cbo estimates that would come from a repeal of the individual mandate. that's money the republicans desperately need. they need to it make permanent their corporate tax cuts. they need it to add more targeted relief on the class side of tax cuts. more importantly, anderson, they need to it ensure based on the budget rules, they can actually move this ...

Want and need and aspire to, let alone the kind of wages to help pay off their loans. >> bret: let me follow-up. it's a great question. what do you think the greatest percent of your income that you should be taxed by the government is. i am talking about federal, state, local. what's the greatest percent? >> representative ryan: as low as we can make it. my mentor was jack kemp. i have always thought we should get it as low as possible. i think they are too high. i would love to get them lower than they are. we have parameters like the deficit and economic growth and the budget rules. >> bret...

Rights now where the politics and concerns are now out weighed by the reality. if you go by the cbo score, as you noted this over the course of ten years will reduce deficits by $338 billion. that is lot of money, and money republicans need to plow into the their tax bill. that means fewer government subsidies will be paid out, fewer people will enroll in medicaid. that will save a significant amount of money. they need it for two reasons. one, they want to plus up to bring their numbers along the middle class tax cuts, they want to director money towards. but they also need to be careful abou...