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So some of those folks said we're sorry in hurricane sandy a lot of people have been displaced and hurt but you know what, we don't want to use federal money to help them. i would say to you, chris, if we are a nation, our job now as a people is to stand with the folks who are struggling in houston and in texas and maybe in louisiana just as i will hope and expect that if vermont suffers another crisis -- and we've had our share of floods, or other states are hard hit, the people of texas will be there for them. that is what is called a nation. which stand together in times of need. i believe ...

Donald trump, then citizen trump, rightly criticized the administration and congress for not getting the money done for sandy because they play polit s politics. that's what i'm saying. you don't have to be defensive about the president. i'm not calling him out. >> i don't feel defensive at all except for the people in need. my focus is on them. >> that's the urgency. >> my focus is on the people who are affected now, not something you want to politicize from five years ago. >> but that's what happened! >> my concern are the women and the children and the families -- >> right. >> -- and the de...