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i have had a great relationship with rand paul. i think he s going to be with us. i think in the end he s going to be with us. i hope john mccain is going to be with us. we just don t know yet. the problem is we have no democrats. we have absolutely no democrat votes. brian: have you tried? yeah, we ve tried. we ve tried. they are in a block. they have 48 votes. all they want to do is obstruct. i think we have democrats we have to get through the budget first. if we get through the budget we will have the taxes. i think we are going to have some democrats, especially in states where did i very well. brian: and he does. he believes there is a lot of democrats who have very nervous about their next election in the senate. he thinks that joe manchin says he believes he can get five or six. he just wants something. he says that something might be a raise to the corporate tax rate, which is ridiculous. why are democrats against lowering the corporate tax rate? steve: listen, the presi ....
Last 20 years. that s not hot president is. the president believes that it s america first and the idea that you just criticized him from the sidelines. this is a man who doesn t want to be interventionist. he uses force where it s necessary, for example, with his crew cruise missiles and 21,000 bombing in afghanistan. to say we need more of the kinds of things we saw in the last 16 years. senator mccain, no we don t. steve: let me ask you because have you been down in washington a lot in the last year. what do you make of this civil war that steve bannon has started against the republican establishment? because yesterday we saw the president out with mitch mcconnell. they were all buddy buddy. the president needs michigan this week. because he has got to get that budget thing through or there is no taxes. i gave a speech for the family research council where i said very plainly what has the establishment g.o.p. done for this president in the last nine months? and that s a very short ....
If you go to current policy as opposed to current law. that s one way to have a larger tax reduction that s permanent, making sure you have accurate explanations of projections of how much revenue come from growth. that allows you to cut more tax rates permanently. maria: yeah. those are the debates that have to show a little ankle before they have the budget because a lot of republicans in the house are willing to swallow a budget that s not terribly attractive or aggressive or doesn t cut spending as much as i like because they know without the budget, you don t get tax reform , people want tax reduction reform but they need to be able to go to their constituents and say i voted for this budget thing not all that interesting but that was what was necessary to get to this rate reduction. maria: yeah but there s a real debate certainly among democrats about cutting taxes on the rich. the highest earners and grover you and i both know the highest ....
Looks we re seeing huge allotment accounted for infrastructure, defense, parental leave, and massive cuts to things like food stamps. why does that make sense? so there s a couple things to look at and i would say we ve got, what, $46 million i think right now on food stamps. half of them have been on for ten years. there s something wrong with our food stamp program. then the program needs to be revised. to say we re not going to offer food stamps anymore i think what you ve seeing is we are going to make an attempt to revise it. let s not forget, chuck schumer and nancy pelosi voted for cutting of $8 billion to the snap program in 2014, so even democrats realize there is a problem and we have to reform it. i think with this whole budget thing, i think that s a very valid point. we need to see more on this tax plan. i love the reform that s being discussed, three brackets, knocking the corporate rate to 15%, repatriating the foreign revenue. these are some things where republi ....
yeah, i think so. and just to go back, the upton amendment that you mentioned was $8 billion. that s $8 billion additional ear marked to help people with preexisting condition. the overall number is closer to $130 billion over ten years. so there s a big difference there. so, yeah, look, i think richard s point on the senate is correct. what you have to remember is reconciliation is this tool that the democrats used to pass obama care in 2010. it s a budget thing. a budget maneuver. that means because republicans are using the same thing here, that means that there will be unlimited amendments offered in the u.s. senate. there will be a lot of debate and a lot of votes. sandra: richard, guy, thank you. well, the healthcare bill has passed in the house. the 216 votes needed was exceeded and met with 217 votes. we are awaiting president trump at the white house. he is set to hold a news ....