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Pitch here? >> it's a really neat trick they've pulled. so a bit of quick history here. in 2001, bush administration wants to do tax cuts, but they don't have 60 votes in the senate, which as all viewers of the "rachel maddow show" knows, you need to get anything done. so they did budget reconciliation. it has rules to make sure you didn't increase the deficit. they got around that rule by adding a ten-year expiration. they did not increase the deficit outside of what's called the budget window. and what they understood after ten years, nobody would want to allow a tax increase to come into be...

So send the clip art construction worker group your money in order to stop this from happening. as a policy guy, ezra, how do you evaluate fred thompson's pitch here? >> it's a really neat trick they've pulled. so a bit of quick history here. in 2001, bush administration wants to do tax cuts, but they don't have 60 votes in the senate, which as all viewers of the "rachel maddow show" knows, you need to get anything done. so they did budget reconciliation. it has rules to make sure you didn't increase the deficit. they got around that rule by adding a ten-year expiration. they did not increase ...

I think in the general sense. one of them is not passing a budget. every family does it, which is something republicans will say again and again. cities are supposed to do it, states are supposed to do it. this is how businesses operate. if you can't pass a budget, as john spratt said in 2006, you can't govern. what is interesting is the republicans, conservative republicans in the house offered a balanced budget, that balances the budget in the same nine-year budget window that the white house can't possibly do. the white house put forward a budget, suggested a budget basically that has defic...

>> reporter: here is why what the cbo will say about the legislation is so important. under any reconciliation rules it has to be budget neutral. meaning no adding to the deficit for the first five years and every year thereafter a 10-year budget window. megyn: in order for the senate to put it through on reconciliation which is that controversial thing where they will do it with 51 votes instead of 60 it has to meet financial threshold so the democrats want to make sure the cbo comes back with those financial thresholds. >> reporter: if the numbers are outside those threshold then reconciliat...

Benefits don't go in effect for four or five years, the cost, the taxes, cuts go into effect right away. why? ten year of cost and six year of benefit to make it fit in a budget window so it looks like they're cutting money when they're not. >> jamie: quickly, congressman. >> all i can say is let the games begin. pass it and take it to the american public. >> jamie: they will, definitely they will be in play this week. we'll watch it. thank you, senator santorum and congressman frost. great to have you both together on sunday morning. >> thank you. >> jamie: take care. >> thank you. >> eric: a...