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President had more money and all the areas veterans care. we look at areas where we think all areas can be improved. the president wasn't supportive of this, this proposal that we made was going to hurt too many veterans, it was going to take away money from those who afforded us, now are back at looking at different ways we can make this budget work. >> martha: i know that older veterans were concerned about changing that program which would have given them more mone money, because of people who can't look for a job for whatever reason. is it possible you would reintroduce that for veterans d...

Rates and get at them. and in fixing that, if you pay 25%, and then you get deduct the mortgage or don't get to deduct the mortgage and pay 20%. if you're net-net not getting taxed any more, i don't see how that's actually going to lead to more spending and i tell you a little dangerous in the short run, the housing market is still-- and to pull out major deductions the home mortgage deduction being one of them. he didn't say he was going to do that, if it didn't do that, but makes the budget work. >> brenda: i know, the tax code is like war and peace. overhauling it, will that help get jocks....

Ayn rand book, and we realized that not everybody gets breaks and you have to look out it in a wide society with people with breaks and no breaks. he seems to be the 20-year-old that just read ayn rand, a complete objectivist, and there's not a word about helping people it's about not doing anything basically and leaving them alone. >> i'd say ryan is an unusually committed ideological politician. i did not find "the fountainhead" to be a terribly compelling work. to each their own. i do the budget work. >> you pointed out effectively in your column that if you look at romney's plan basically,...

Helping people, it is just about not doing anything basically and leaving them alone. >> i would say ryan is an unusually committed ideological politician. i find it somewhat pleasant. but to each their own. i do the budget work. >> okay, let's talk about this. you point out effectively in the last few weeks in your column if you look at romney's plan basically, you're going to raise the tax of the middle class person watching television right now. the average person has to go up because the total number of loopholes that romney promises to close, even if you put them all at the top, there's n...

Paycheck fairness act. he won't tell us which tax loopholes he would close to make his budget work. he can't name the federal agencies he wants to cut. he refuses to say whether he would have signed the lilly ledbetter fair pay act. he won't take a stand on the violence against women act and he won't talk about the carried interest tax break which is huge, my friends. candidate romney, don't you think he owes us a few answers? but it seems like he's simply following in the footsteps of another famous politician of decades ago. republican candidate thomas dewey, dewey, i tell you, this guy was ...