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Have to pass a budget. there has only been one budget passed in the last six years. we need the last two years of this administration to teach the executive branch they need to negotiate with the legislature and outline priorities, which is what a budgeting process does. we also need to be talking about the long-term of dealing with the unfunded obligations in our entitlement programs because that's what's going to impoverish our kids. >> to do that, ultimately you need control, your party does of the white house. so over the next two years, essentially it's showing america, hey, look. the rep...

Surprising. both potential candidates being ordered by donor types in new york and probably saw what is the correct assessment, he did not have much of a path to the nomination except for the fact he is from the all-important swing state. i do think he is not out of the talks entirely. talk about 2012 is a potential vice president candidate. i would say that is just as expected as bush thinking but he is running for president. acting like he is thinking about so wasn't surprised by either news story. >> a pretty good resume if you want to run for president, former member of office of managemen...

We want to get the economy moving and address the problems before the shut down. let's get things worked out. >> optimistic this morning. ahead of the republican senate committee. thanks for coming on. damage control. is there any way out of this for the gop with numbers like this? the republican leaders are looking for the silver lining. we will see if there is for them. today's trivia question, since 1976 when congress revised the budgeting process, which president had the most time in government shutdowns? the first person to tweet the correct question will get the on-air shout out. the ans...

It. nothing short of that is going to work in their eyes. that's what this debate is about. >> the question today in missouri the president when nobody gets 100%, then maybe he'll bend some from obama care. >> i think the area that needs to bend is that 45 house republicans that's holding everything hostage. but in the crossfire today, nara tanden, one of the architects of obama care, and one of the law's main opponents, matt kibbe. matt, this question goes to you. isn't this insane? don't we know how this is going to end? >> i think the budgeting process is insane. i think the fact that every...

Management under president bush george w. bush. i wanted to get his reactions. many republicans hoped daniels, a fiscal conservative would run for president in 2012. he turned that job down and made a seriously nerdy move. despite he is not an academic, ened up not president of the united states but president of purdue university. i talked with him. >> budgets are the wrong place to be focused but you have made a career, in part on what you have seen as being critically important, which is the budgeting process. talk to me about the importance of budgets. >> i'm a noncombatant. >> no. i'm inte...