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Of its own problems, it's fundamental problems itself. and the best way to do that in my view and to not excite this great rivalry that might suck us all in is to create a buffer state there, recognize crimea as being gone. create a buffer state in ukraine, get the cia out of kiev, get its equivalent in russia out of kiev, get the nab out of kiev, and let the ukrainians take care of that part of ukraine and bring it back to some part of prosperity and stability. >> the question upon which much of this balances. thank you gentlemen both for joining me. >> thanks. coming up, we still don't kno...

You just played reminded me he was the danish leader who drug liz country denmark into the disastrous iraq war in 2003. this is not something that anybody needs. not the west, not russia, not the world. there needs to be an end to the passion, an end to the pundittry and the solution. the solution is staring us in the face. gordon adams and john mirshimer and others have talked about it over the last few days. ukraine needs to be a buffer state between an alliance that russia hates, nato, and a country that nato has a problem with, russia. ukraine needs to be the buffer state, crimea needs to ...

Moscow and kiev. the problem is few analysts think that vladimir putin will swallow this diplomatic pill. russia is in political, economic, and social decline. putin's tactics led its people to depose russian backed president yanukovych last month and form a new government. by his behavior, putin has driven russia's neighbors clovers to nato. russia has likely lost most of ukraine as a buffer state even if it claims crimea as a consolation prize. the world simply isn't moving russia's way. chuck todd? >> this is about exactly what you hear from susan rice and behind the scenes from john kerry....

Director of national intelligence testify as he has in the past couple of days that this is somehow a reflection of an effort internally to show that kim jong-un is in control. we don't know whether he is in control, the generals are in control, or it's some combination in between. i think you're right. china is schizophrenic about what to do with north korea. the older generation, still looks at north korea as a necessary buffer state to keep the united states away from the border with china. the younger generation, however, seeing this nuclear menace on their border, seeing what an ugly piec...

Action by china. that's pretty typical that is three decades of no response by china, no pressure by china on its client state. >> right, exactly. the chinese leadership is divided over how to handle north korea. the traditional few has been, they're an ally. we want a buffer state between them and the united states. but among younger chinese leaders you're now seeing op-eds being published and discussion in the media about what an ugly piece of baggage this regime in pongyang is. we should have started this conversation with china years ago but better late than never. we have to think about t...