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Buffett he claims pays a lower rate in taxes than his secretary, i'll call it the reagan rule, because he came out and said your dad pwurbd fo pushed for the exact same thing. >> you really want to hear me scream. you really want to hear me go -- [screaming] megyn: why are you doing that? >> i am so tired of barack obama lying about my father in trying to pass his piece of the legislation. he dresses newspaper a new set of clothes every week. he dressed up as warren buffett, went to the senate, they turned down the buffet rule. now he's going to dress himself up as ronald reagan and try to tel...

That was a guy scared to death his candidate will go down flailing around badly. >> i got the same impression as well. one of those polls that you are including is the abc "washington post" poll. that poll, they had 11% more democrats they sample than republicans. >> sure. >> which i think that is certainly outlier based on the demographics. all right, so the president strategy is he can't run on his record. so he is going to go out and attack. it seems like every time he immerses himself the war on women backfireed, sandra fluke backfireed. all the attacks that the president has been making, ...

Businesses have a tax cut to create more jobs. and so i just think there's a clash of visions here. and something that will continue to play out this year as we try to get something done here in washington. >> but didn't president obama in the past, wasn't he in favor of some tax cuts to small businesses? >> well, i mean, there's been some indication from the white house that they want to help small businesses. but it seems that every time that they say that, there is always some string attached. there's always some desire to want to try to micromanage a small business man or woman's money and...

Buffet rule. they agreed the very rich should not get to pay a lower tax rate. republicans are trying to spin this as democrats want to raise your taxes. democrats are spinning in instead as fairness. democrats are saying the system for too long has been gamed to benefit the richest people in the country and that's not fair. that should stop. >> we can settle for an economy where a shrinking number of people do very, very well and everybody else is struggling to get by, or we can build an economy where we're rewarding hard work and responsibility. an economy where everybody has a fair shot and...

The tax breaks to the right people. they want to target the right people. >> it goes against the president's narrative of taxing the rich. so it's just the opposite message. even in the back of his mind he did agree with it. in the past, the president has done some tax breaks and things for small businesses. right now, he can't. he can't go along with this. it would disrupt that whole buffet rule. >> they talk about it will be a one-year tax break and according to one report it will cost the treasury $46 billion, that's if you don't factor any growth that could happen with the small businesses...