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Churchill. >> you get shot out of an aircraft and get picked up by a submarine, at 19 he had a view of life very different. >> at 18 or 19. >> yeah. 18 years old, learns how to fly a plane and gets shot down, picked up in the pacific by a submari submarine. an incredible story. >> ben bradley said do you want what it's like to be a 21-year-old piloting a destroyer in enemy waters, do you know what that was like? let's listen to former president george herbert walker bush during his state of the union address in 1990, talking about the value of, what you said, decency. >> the state of the gover...

Pressure on something like that. >> that's a series i would strongly argue with many of the points in it. but the bottom line, as you suggest, is when something like 9/11 happens, you can look back and point to the things you did right but fundamentally if you didn't catch it, you have to stare it in the face and say we missed that, how could we have gotten it? what could we learn from it? >> why is it considered -- >> a cia director can't be defensive, they have to say what can we learn from this? >> how is cia director a political graveyard. a lot of people considered he was given that job t...