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These sort of political line items that it's getting compared with? you know, isn't there a sense that no matter where you are in the political spectrum, we can agree that this deserves serious and thoughtful debate by congressional leaders? >> i think it does deserve thoughtful and serious debate by congressional leaders. it's not the first time that a package has been used to carry nonappropriation things. this has been used by republicans and democrats and majorities that are split. the political reality is when you have any piece of legislation that is must-pass, must be done, a debt ceili...

And so, it's one of those issues that has to be dealt with, along with all of the others. we need to fund the government for the remainder of this year, for ten-- or actually nine full months going forward. gillian: sir, i would just say. sorry to interrupt you. i would just say to you from the perspective of ordinary americans, the american people at large today, that is the specialty of you and your colleagues, not just democrats, republicans, too, congress's specialty is kicking the can down the road and we don't expect anything else. >> we should. gillian: this point going forward, the sen...