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Who need them. >> ezra, as you know the conservative answer to the questions you are asking is, let the market do it. >> yeah, how is that working out for everybody? so, there are a couple of issues there. but you're right, this is a huge problem. is that the government shouldn't take winners and losers and saying in the piece -- that it's become cannon, that the government funded cylindrical under the obama administration did not fail. nobody ever talks about that the same program through lifeline to member's -- named tesla. we don't talk about that, all that often anymore, put it very much h...

Helped shepherd through -- schumer's been a huge champion on this, a build call in the senate, the peace act. which is a huge bill on spending between 250 billion on the senate side, 350 on the house side, on technology. all those structured around anti-trying to concerns. and they said the big concern to getting enough room is not alluding science, they should be excited to do things like that. whether it's a public mission behind science. >> ezra klein, thank you very much for joining us once again tonight. >> thank you. >> tonight's last word is next. you moving with diabetes. glucerna live...

There's things that definitely are doable that we all could agree need fixed. >> i've worked across the aisles. we've worked together. doesn't matter. at the end of the day, those in our system are valued human beings by the gift of god. they've made mistakes, paying for them. it's a money and morale issue. are we doing what we can do redeem folks in there and giving them a chance to have a better life if they get out? we have a build call the redemption act. it's bipartisan. we've been working on this. it's for basically taking those once they get into the federal system, starting them early ...