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If he did not discuss or in any way hold over the ukrainian president military aid authorized by congress for the ukraine, if he knows he didn't discuss that, again, i am in the speculation area here, maybe he thinks that's a safe base. so we don't know. but the president kind of set up a strong man force saying build it up, build it up, build it up. that's what he was chiding reporters, so there would be a greater fall. we saw that during the russian investigation. it is hard to know. but the president definitely was trying to be dismissive about this today. >> right. >> reporter: and we have...