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Destructive and horrible rule. >> martha: joining me now, the new head of the environmental protection agency, scott pruitt. so good to have you with us tonight. welcome. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: i know farmers are very happy about the beginning of the rollback that this regulation. tell us why. >> i think it is farmers and ranchers and oil and gas producers, those who build subdivisions. economic development has been impacted because it is waters of the united states rule, martha. what you had happened, the epa a couple of years ago created a rule that literally said to the dry creek ...

What do you say to these people out there who say you're getting rid of critically important regulations that keep our drinking water clean and safe? >> what >> it's important for the epa to pass rules that are consistent with the congressional power given to that agency. no agency at the federal level has power that congress has not given it. look what the epa did with the waters of the united states rule, it was seeking to regulate waters that were dry creekbeds in certain parts of the country. puddles in some instances. that's not an overstatement. you had farmers and ranchers, those who bu...